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I am a physician in a 110 physician multispecialty group.  We are part of a 400+ physician health system.  I've been assigned the job of getting the clinic to a level of usage of our EMR (that we have had for 9 years) that will qualify for the incentive payments.  I would like to be able to use this promise of financial reward to get the physicians in the clinic to make better usage of the EMR. 

However, my concern is that even if we get to a level of usage that will qualify for the money, the physicians will never get the money.  This is because our pay from the health system is based on fair market value for our production based on RVU's.  This probably isn't unlike many other clinics in the country.  I think I can safely assume that the extra reimbursement for services rendered to Medicare and Medicaid patients won't be tied to extra RVU's for the services.  If that is the case the physicians will never see the money and the health system will keep it to avoid paying the doctors more than fair market value.  If, however, the money is sent separately with it earmarked as incentive pay it will likely flow through to the doctors.

My question is, does any one know in what form the payments will be made?  Will the money that comes into the institution or health system be  clearly designated as a payment to the physician separate from the reimbursement for CPT codes?

Doug Duncan MD

Springfield, MO

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# alex
Monday, March 29, 2010 1:35 PM
That is one big question. No one is sure about how the incentive payments or in what form the incentive payments for meaningful use appear! Here we can see Doug Duncan as a physician in a 110 physician multi specialty group. Anyway the concern for him is that even if the level of usage surpasses the qualification for the money, the physicians are unable to have all that money which I say is a pitiful thing to happen!
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I don't understand your comment. There is no buyer or seller or purchase agreement involved. Our clinic has a professional services contract with the health system. We are an independent corporation.
I am asking our physicians to spend time learning new methods of documentation and new work flows. I am asking them to change the way they practice and the way they have always carried out their business. That takes time and time is all we have to sell. We are already forced to do huge amounts of paper work we never had to do before and it is increasing monthly.
There is a reason the ARRA money is called incentive money. But it appears that it is not going to be that at all. I am not able to use the stimulus money as a stimulus to get the physicians in the clinic to advance their usage of the EMR because it is unclear (and even appears unlikely) if we will ever get any money to offset the extra workload and loss of time seeing patients as a result of putting out the effort to achieve meaningful use. So, effectively, the stimulus money is not a stimulus as it was intended.
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That's a very good question. If the physicians will never get the money, it wouldn't be of any use right?
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That's a very good question. If the physicians will never get the money, it wouldn't be of any use right?
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There is a reason the ARRA money is called incentive money. But it appears that it is not going to be that at all. I am not able to use the stimulus money as a stimulus to get the physicians in the clinic to advance their usage of the EMR because it is unclear (and even appears unlikely) if we will ever get any money to offset the extra workload and loss of time seeing patients as a result of putting out the effort to achieve meaningful use."
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